Use a zip tie. It'll be more secure.
Already in lockdown, don't need any more locks ;)
Use a zip tie. It'll be more secure.
Already in lockdown, don't need any more locks ;)
I was waiting for LPL to turn up :)
Probably worth a pound but I wouldn't use it to secure more than a pounds worth of gear either!
Having just had locked up bike stolen.. Where is info on security of these or durability (eg rust proof)?
Hope it's not the same as this :D
Another wild goose chase none in stock as usual
Oil.....your cheap and available friend.....
These are very easy to break. The longer the hinge the better. They really aren’t suitable for putting on anything valuable to deter a thief but they would be good for securing items such as ladders so they don’t fly off your van. All in all a good price so 🔥
Rusted after 4 months on an outdoor storage box and seal does not keep lock water type, lock ended up seized... Spend a couple of quid more and get something decent if it's for outdoors, inside you will be fine ;) maxmix
Agreed. We have the same lock on our garden gate and it appears quite durable.
If you've got a decent size chain with two links through this, there's no space for combi spanners to get in there. As far as I can see, Lockpicking Lawyer has never done this particular padlock, so I'm not sure how easy it is to attack. I do enjoy watching LPL's YouTube videos, but I'm not sure how sensible it is to tell the world how to pick any specific lock. It would seem the safest approach is to buy any lock that he HASN'T featured.
It appears most "whingers" are actually "whinging" about the quality of the materials used for manufacture and it's ability to withstand the weather and still function as as a padlock that's capable of being unlocked. Most padlocks will succumb to the old 2 x combination spanner trick so I think the pickability is almost irrelevant!
I do think it is helpful to point to such resources but within context. Bolt cutters will cut off most padlocks. So is it best to not have a lock? Of course it isn't. If you need something more secure then you can pay much more and get something much more secure. But even then people could break in to your house, threaten you and steal the keys. I probably shouldn't of used the term 'whinging' though, so sorry.
There is an expert on YT who tries various locks to see how easy they are to open. I’d hardly call referring to a knowledge source as “whinging” but cheers for the dismissive remark all the same. A deal need not exist in an echo chamber of ignorance.
Exactly this. I posted it as my first deal. So many people whinging about the quality and lock pick-ability. Truth is any where is breakable. Heck look at Hatton Garden. It's about being a deterent. If you've got diamonds hidden. Clearly don't use this lock. If you've got a few spare pieces of wood in your shed. Its not too bad. Hate to break it to people... but even in the digital world all that's breakable. eBay, LinkedIn, Microsoft (windows), Yahoo. They've all been hacked too.
i thought this was for a padlock
Would this be good to lock up my bike?
Me neither (annoyed)
Code isn’t working for me?
Bought these on amazon last year, and was initial impressed by the feel and weight but rusted within a week, started to stick after 2 weeks. They are completely unsuitable for outdoor use IMO Returned for a full refund. Replaced with some Masterlocks which have lasted the test of the weather in the past year and feel sturdy I love the lock picking expert channel, but it just showcases his fantastic skill (and also shines a light on the frankly comic "locksmith" trader who simply drill out any lock they are confronted by) - most locks are pick-able in some way, but the same locks simply provide immediate protection against opportunists. Anyone who really wants to get in my wooden shed, is likely going to succeed (but will have to get past the alarm and CCTV alongside locked entrances which individually aren't Fort Knox quality, but together provides good protection for my property)
If you care or bother about your shed and it's contents or even back gates then stop wasting your money on these kids locks please... They are cheap for a reason. Watch like the top comment says Lockpickinglawyer i have been watching him for a long time now and it still amazes me how cheap locks fool people.. Take care (y)
Also known as shutter locks, as used by shops to secure their roller shutters. As with many locks used outside grease or oil liberally, I put my shed lock in a sandwich bag with some car oil to make sure it stayed rust free prior to fixing to the door.
Wd40 from new (y)
Despite it saying 'outdoor' I bought 2 of these at the end of March and both have rusted, not so much that they don't work, but considering how little rain we've had, I guarantee they won't last over winter.
If you know, you know. (highfive)
Slow deal day huh?
Why are they selling this here...Job lot picked up for peanuts and sold as a novelty for a tidy profit? By the look of the keys,not the best made lock...I'd stick with the usual suspects.
This deal just sums up HUKD. A product which is used on something not one person owns in the UK has gone hot.
Or use it as a family bike lock, it'll also hold up the 3 bikes so no need for a stand
And yet, you can buy good padlocks that don’t readily rust up for years, and they don’t have the added protection of a plastic covering that this Yale has. The Yale is cheap though so at least it’s not loads of money down the drain. But keep the receipt so that in a couple of months time you can say it’s not good for outside when it struggles to work
No any wet oil makes bits stick to it causing excess wear. Always use graphite or special lock oil.
I've had the same locks outside for 9 years. Occasionally they need a bit of oil in the top of the lock, and when I say occasionally not even once a year. Perhaps you got a bad batch or perhaps they have reduced in quality. The locks I got were a set of 3 and I got them as the same key fits all.
I bought one from wilko, will see how long and "healthy" will last the padlock
Isn't it the other way round for old locks. I remember in the 1970s you used to get corrosion in locks, so WD40. Non corrosive material is so much better these days, hence no maintenence I can't quite remember what it is about graphite. I think it used to encourage oxidation of some nickel (I think) alloys.
After more research it seems they're both hardcore XL but one is the older version and one is newer that is gold secure and it has a 16mm shackle as opposed to 11mm. Both have different product codes.
Your showing the better monster chain and lock which is £159.99 .Where this thread is showing the hardcore chain and lock for £89.99. The link I show is for the hardcore. They all look similar.
Are you sure it's not this one? https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/products/security/motorcycle-chains-and-locks/tested-oxford-monster-xl-chain-and-padlock-review Has a much better rating and in the top 10 above pragmasis which is really surprising. Not sure if it's newer?
Here is the review by Bennett's bike https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/products/security/motorcycle-chains-and-locks/tested-oxford-hardcore-xl-chain-and-padlock-review And the other tested locks. https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/products/security/motorcycle-chains-and-locks/how-to-choose-the-best-motorcycle-security
I bought an Oxford monster and another Oxford one whose name I can't remember back in 2000 and 2001 and still using them now. Fantastic quality. Maybe they moved to China afterwards hence now made of compressed kitkat foil. Ground anchor make sure u buy one with oil and rollers inside and no ground bolts but long glued threads instead. Naked chains and padlocks always susceptible to liquid nitrogen. Nylon ropes will seize bolt croppers and if they run through your bike and into an empty dog kennel it would take a brave thief to call fidos bluff
Locks aren't that complex, it's mostly down to your skill/technique. Took me about 15 minutes as a noob to pick a door lock I bought on ebay identical to my own the first time I tried (having watched many videos on it over the months). Although it is easier when you're holding it in your hand as opposed to crouched down. If you did it every day then you'd probably get quite good at it. I reckon lockpicking lawyer could do it in 20-30 seconds.
Was good enough for what it came with. It was my first time buying a lock pick kit and giving it a try. I initially placed a lot more force than was necessary, and mine did not bend. I can't image what force you must have used or what you tried to use it on. I am pretty satisfied for the price.
I got one of these and tried picking my door locks, as I could pick them easily I decided I needed better door locks! - it's actually quite a challenge and a puzzle and I'm sure many pick locks as a challenge and nothing more. I'd agree that this kit is painful to use, the metal handles and rivets do dig into your fingers and the picks break quite easily... as a first introduction to locks and their vulnerabilities, this is a handy kit.
And as legal as selling petrol.
Good deal, One for each of my girlfriends chastity belts,
half the keys open the other locks..and put a small thin bit of metal like a nail file in them and the pop open and break they are no good to keep anything safe
Ok but don't use travelling to the USA they will cut it leaving it unlocked
Well, the review isn't all good but I guess you get what you pay with this one
Good advice... you can open a zipped up case with a biro pen and re-zip and no one would ever know... fitting a lock is a pointless excercise. Just don't ever put anything valuable in a checked luggage case. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpIJVWXsBBI
I just use zip ties. Discourages unauthorised tampering or accidental opening in transit but can be snipped off without damaging the luggage if authorities need a look. Never had them snipped though. If anyone really wants to open your luggage they'll just put a knife through it anyway. Don't put valuables in hold luggage!
No such thing as a decent TSA lock. Apart from how weak they are, you can just buy yourself a set of TSA keys that will open the cheapest to the most expensive TSA approved locks. You only need them if you don't want someone to know you've opened their case. If you're just interested in the contents, then a pen will do the trick
well guess your not european countries comment was a bit wrong then :P there's not really any good travel padlock the only security they offer is to the owner of the case.At best they hold the zip together
Is the UK also included? Otherwise, regardless of your destination, you could still get your padlock snipped before departure or on your return.
Picked one up this morning
Got one of these and a heavy duty bike lock after my sons bike got nicked, they are bloody loud when the thieving scumbags try to steal stuff at 3am. Always scares them off
Thanks, but nothing really to lock up indoors.
To be fair, they'll refund you if it fails. Maybe they have revised it since? If you are planning on using it somewhere dry it might be ok?
Oh dear. I was about to get one. Thanks (highfive)
As with the majority of Master Locks, only use them to practice lock picking, never ever use them to secure anything.
Any advice on a reasonably priced padlock that can't be broken into quite so easily please?
I bought a lock picking kit just for a laugh and opened one of these very easily.
So if these last 18 months as some reviews say, that means for £15 odd i can expect a lock on my shed for the next 4.5 years, not too bad i guess but rather get another make after watching that video but cannot really compare this lock to Brinks..they seem to charge a ridiculous premium on their similar products.
Despite the name, Master Locks are considered complete junk by anyone with even a basic knowledge of lock picking. You can literally open them with a paper-clip, cat food tin lid or a piece of plastic. You are far better off buying a decent Yale or similar. For example, here's a video showing how weak Master Locks are (the guy doing the picking is a chap called Bosnian Bill - he currently works for the US Secret Service, and was formerly a bomb disposal EOD operator in the US military) More info here: https://nypost.com/2015/12/21/your-master-lock-doesnt-really-lock-anything-up/
I could not pick £1 bike lock either. Opened a £150 digi ingersoll lock with ease though.
Seriously? I thought he had a good technique for breaking padlocks.
He must be a very bad lock picker
What? these are the only locks that have defeated the lock picking lawyer (cheeky)
Bit of rubbish normally found inside Xmas cracker
Decent looking lock, unfortunately mine is faulty as shackle doesnt disengage when the key is turned, undecided if I'll get a replacement or a refund, the core has got some security pins but can be picked and raked by anyone with relatively basic lock picking skills, it's okay at this price, wouldn't want to pay the full price for it though.
Dude hi is an absolute master at that but yes i do feel like that myself..
This is the only company that i wouldn't touch and trust with any type of security after burning myself a few times before. Please don't.....
No reviews but found one on a different sized model " Bought this padlock recently and the part that is supposed to protect the shackle has parted company from the body of the padlocked. So all a thief needs to do is hit padlock with a hammer, remove the shackle protection and cut shackle with bolts cutters or a grinder. Although the basic padlock still works the extra security is a waste of time. Not worth the money. " Sounds like a lot of work to be fair :D
Anyone got a decent set of bolt cutters?
I paid full price on these locks a while ago, I wouldn't use them again even if they're free.
Learning a lot on here
Yes, Really. I don't post fake news. Click the link. They are really easy to open.
Seriously, why are these locks rubbish... What info / knowledge is this based upon.
I reckon the packaging will be harder to open than these locks (lol)
Hahaha that's what I get for just impulse buying, I thought this would do my shed, it's freaking tiny (lol) (lol)
Mine have already arrived and yup, they're tiny. Looking at the keyway, I'm not even sure my tensioners will fit, let alone my picks.
Thanks OP, managed to order 4 in the end. They’re tiny but will be brill for suitcases and locking small stuff up temporarily.
Yes i see youve expired it now. Thanks anyway, looked like a great deal
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