Music Magpie Scam Artists!

Posted 3rd Oct 2023
Last week I sent my Apple Watch Series 5 to Music Magpie in 'Good Condition'. There were light scratches on the screen which I took photos of just before posting. The watch was in original packaging including in the sleeve the watches usually come in.

I was disappointed when I was refused the offer they gave me and counter offered with £9 as the item was in 'poor condition'. Obviously I declined and they returned the watch.

Received it today, in the original box but the watch wasn't in the sleeve and to my absolute horror, the screen is smashed in the corner, and big cracks through the screen itself! This is NOT how I sent it or how I expect to receive it!

The box is immaculate so I doubt that the watch was damaged in transit, especially with a padded sleeve over the watch!

How on earth am I supposed to follow this as they are guaranteed to say that's how they received it to cover their own backs, but I can guaranteed that is not how I sent it! Am I the one that's going to be left out of pocket with these sharks?

I'm absolutely livid!!!

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  1. Bargeinion's avatar
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    UPDATE -

    Just had a response. Happy with the outcome, however I don’t believe for one second they are offering me the original value after saying this happened during transit. My guess is they’ve seen evidence on their end but don’t want to admit it!

    Please everyone, make sure you take photos with timestamps when you sell things!!


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    MicroManaged's avatar
    So it wasn't damaged but arrived to them damaged? What a contradictory email.
  2. Adriatique's avatar
    I’ve sent loads of dvd / cd to MM for them to reduce the price dramatically when they’ve received them that I won’t use them again I’d rather give to charity shop

    Have they returned the watch you sent them, have you checked serial number?

    Hopefully you’ll get this sorted
    Bargeinion's avatar
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    Yeah received it today which is how I saw the screen was smashed. Their declined offer simply said it had ‘Heavy Cosmetic Wear’.
  3. The2Time's avatar
    Got a qoute for a Macbook pro for £580 ish and they came back and offered me £52 lol. Some nonsense about the screen being damaged which was ironic as it had a fresh screen fitted a month previous by apple under Applecare+ lol.

    Safe to say i refused and was fearing the worst but luckily it arrived back in the same condition. I then took it to apple as I did wonder if maybe something I couldnt see was wrong when they repaired it but they assured me MM were just trying to pull my pants down.
  4. sm9690's avatar
    It could have been damaged in transit, you can ask MM for photos of the condition in which they received it. You can then compare these with the photos which you took before sending it and then use this as a claim with the courier.
    Bargeinion's avatar
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    I really don't see how that would be possible to be honest as the box is immaculate with no dents etc. The watch itself was then inside another box within, which is moulded around the watch which was also inside like a fabric sleeve. I think it would be pretty impossible to smash the screen without some sort of obvious damage to the packaging.

    However, I am in a queue for a live chat with MM and have been for about 45 minutes now, and also sent a claim with Royal Mail in the meantime as I think I'll get nowhere with these cowboys!


    Sorry I'm still seething as you can tell and know you are only trying to help
  5. aLV426's avatar
    Appreciate you sharing this - it's good to know.
    Thankfully I haven't had a bad experience yet with them - I did buy an Xbox One which turned out to be faulty and I was able to return it for a full refund, so they do get some things right.
    I would like to know how or what happened in your case!
    Bargeinion's avatar
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    I've just had a reply from them after I emailed their CEO. No luck with Live Chat as it keeps freezing as soon as you get to position 1 after waiting over an hour.

    They said they would investigate and asked for time stamped photos of the item before and after, plus the packaging today. Luckily I did take photos of the watch itself before posting, however not of the box/contents showing it packaged and inside the sleeve which is now missing.

    Also just thought, if it had damaged in transit - there would be traces of glass in the packaging which there is not, but is obviously missing from the corner of the watch. Where is this glass!?
  6. acb76's avatar
    I bought (and later resold back to MM) an iPhone and had no issues whatsoever.

    However last month I got a quote from them to sell them an unlocked Note10+ 512g in excellent condition and took it to one of their automated fast track drop-off points. After 'assessing' the device the drop-off point claimed it was a 256g device in poor condition and was offered precisely 1/10th of their original quote. I declined, took the phone out the device, literally wiped it a couple of times and pur it back into the drop-off point to try again and that time it identified the phone correctly and confirmed my original quote.

    But the cynic in me wondered if the initial, ridiculously low offer was an attempt to fool me by hoping I'd not be paying attention and wouldn't notice the difference between £17.00 and £170.00.
  7. tempt's avatar
    Similar horror stories on MacRumors and someone is talking to the press about lack of consumer protection when it comes to trade-in companies. Hope something good comes out of it.

    forums.macrumors.com/thr…71/
  8. MicroManaged's avatar
    I received this junk from MM last week on a "good condition" listing.

    Deep scratches and a knackered battery. I wonder how much the previous owner got ripped for it.

    Needless to say it was returned for a refund.

    Did you note the serial number on the watch and take photos? Does it match the serial number returned?
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    Bargeinion's avatar
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    Hey, luckily I took photos of the box which has the serial number which does match the watch. At the time I didn’t know where the serial number was on the watch as I took photos with the strap on, but noticed it’s where the straps go now so can confirm the same. However the protector sleeve that was over the watch hasn’t been returned which would have saved it from any bumps etc.
  9. Gollywood's avatar
    No idea why people don't use date/time stamped apps when taking photos.

    We use them at work and I use them all the time in general (edited)
    MicroManaged's avatar
    You mean you've "no idea why people don't use"?
  10. Willy_Wonka's avatar
    Does the IMEI number match the one you sent?

    If so then you haven't ruled out the possibility of it being damaged in the package you sent to them.

    If it was sent insured you may have a valid claim with the postal service used. (edited)
    Bargeinion's avatar
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    The serial number matches - the number on the watch matches the box which I did take a photo of. Box is still immaculate as I remember it being.

    They provide you with a QR code for postage which is insured up to £100 I believe which is what this was valued just under so I didn't opt for the paid for special delivery which is valued up to £300.
  11. williemaykit's avatar
    Sorry OP that you had to go through that. I would be livid as well. Good thing you took photos

    MM aren't great for recycling. They will regularly find reasons to not buy anything they can't sell really quickly (which is fair enough but why offer to buy anything not pristine in the first place?). For a long time, MM was my default recycler. They would offer the best prices (or close to it) and the trades were always stress free. That changed around 2020/2021. They seemed to come up with all manner of excuses to not complete a trade.

    Sent in two Macbook Pro's only for them to claim both were faulty and one had water damage. Had them checked over by local Apple store. No issues. Got them sent back.

    Only my last trade (a Fold 3) went through without quibbles. MM were offering a lot more than anyone else so thought it was worth a punt. Like the OP, took lots of photos expecting rejection but it all went through

    These days I use the comparison services via Money Saving Expert

    moneysavingexpert.com/mob…ng/


    Of the vendors on the comparison sites, I have used Meelie a couple of times. The trades have been really smooth (like how MM used to be). (edited)
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