Help - Urgent Help Needed to Open My Car Bonnet

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Found 22nd Jan 2012
Help - my wife's Peugeot 207 GT wouldn't start on Friday (just made a clicking sound when she turned the ignition)

Green Flag came to her work address Friday PM and jump started it, checked the battery & alternator etc and said it would charge on the 8 mile journey home.

I tried it yesterday and it still wouldn't start and so when I went to jump start it I found the the bonnet release lever in the passenger footwell was loose and I can't open the bonnet.

I can't see the cable behind the lever and it looks like I'll have to pay to have it recovered to a garage on Monday unless I can get it going, as I don't have homestart on my Green Flag policy.

Anyone got any helpful advice please?
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Phone green flag and ask why they left you unable to open your bonnet

And give it a good yank - they are sometimes slack
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Or bump start it
dimebars

Or bump start it


not advisable to bump start modern cars
Try pulling the lever and someone pushing up and down on the bonnet. If you havent already.
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Advisable by who?

Any other viable suggestion as to how the OP is going to get it running and to the garage that won't incur recovery costs?

boabbyrab

not advisable to bump start modern cars


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OP - how old is the car? Is it under warranty? Is the Peugeot Assistance still valid?
Original Poster
Wow that was quick
Car is an 08, bought from Peugeot Dealership 7 months ago. When I picked it up the lever wouldn't work, so they took the car out back - 10 mins later it was sorted.

When my wife got home Friday, I checked under the bonnet ok as I was gonna put the battery on charge overnight.

Weather was so bad Friday, I thought I'd wait to charge the battery until Saturday so closed the bonnet.

Lever didn't work Saturday a.m. just hanging slack, with no resistance at all

dimebars

Advisable by who?



Push starting modern cars is not recommended (some car manuals have ths in big letters) because they rely on several parts to start correctly that will not get power they need before the engine starts due to the push start. Jump starting is advised as that way all the car's systems are correctly powered for a normal start and avoids the potential of damage to engine components.

John
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And beef gives you cancer

Bump start it, take it to the dealer and get them to fix it properly
MonkeyPrince

Wow that was quickCar is an 08, bought from Peugeot Dealership 7 months … Wow that was quickCar is an 08, bought from Peugeot Dealership 7 months ago. When I picked it up the lever wouldn't work, so they took the car out back - 10 mins later it was sorted.When my wife got home Friday, I checked under the bonnet ok as I was gonna put the battery on charge overnight.Weather was so bad Friday, I thought I'd wait to charge the battery until Saturday so closed the bonnet.Lever didn't work Saturday a.m. just hanging slack, with no resistance at all



Was there any reason for the battery to be flat such as headlights being left on or was the engine restarted repeatedly within a short period of time? If not, it sounds like the battery is needing replaced which I've just had to do on my car as the cold seems to have finished it off.

I was going to say check the position the bonnet catch is in as it sounds like it hasn't returned properly when the bonnet was closed but the fact this was a fault on the car before means it's probably not as simple as that - can you see the lever/catch under the bonnet at all?

John
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Johnmcl7

Was there any reason for the battery to be flat such as headlights being … Was there any reason for the battery to be flat such as headlights being left on or was the engine restarted repeatedly within a short period of time? If not, it sounds like the battery is needing replaced which I've just had to do on my car as the cold seems to have finished it off.I was going to say check the position the bonnet catch is in as it sounds like it hasn't returned properly when the bonnet was closed but the fact this was a fault on the car before means it's probably not as simple as that - can you see the lever/catch under the bonnet at all?John



The battery doesn't seem completely flat now as the automatic door mirrors still work when unlocking the car. The Green Flag bloke said the battery was charging ok, but I'm not whether it was flat on Friday when he jump started it. Lights hadn't been left on, as they are automatic.

Wife now thinks it wasn't starting perfectly a couple of times over the past week but never mentioned it to me.

I've tried the pushing up and down on the bonnet technique, but there is zero resistance on the lever in the footwell so no joy.

I cannot even see the bonnet catch, as the bonnet itself sits flush wit the rest of the bodywork as per pic http://www.nextcar.com.au/i.peugeot.207.2007.gt.green.l.07feb.jpg
Wondering if the car has been in an accident at some point. Bonnet sitting a bit creased and causing problems?
here are my two suggested solutions

1. tow the car a distance away from the house and then call greenflag and say it has broken down
2. look around for companies that sell car batteries that would come out to fit it. ask them if they would be able to open the bonnet as it seems stuck. say that you would buy a new battery from them if they can get the bonnet open to install it.

sounds like the car needs a new battery anyway.
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dimebars

Phone green flag and ask why they left you unable to open your bonnetAnd … Phone green flag and ask why they left you unable to open your bonnetAnd give it a good yank - they are sometimes slack



Tried that, they said it was fine when they left it, good yank made no difference
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WoolyM

Wondering if the car has been in an accident at some point. Bonnet … Wondering if the car has been in an accident at some point. Bonnet sitting a bit creased and causing problems?


Full check at purchase came back clear, no other signs of accident evident. Seems more likely to be a bonnet cable/mechanism problem?
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MonkeyPrince



Is that your house in the background.
Looks cool
MonkeyPrince

Tried that, they said it was fine when they left it, good yank made no … Tried that, they said it was fine when they left it, good yank made no difference


Doh, Mutleys suggestion might have been better. Get them to come and open it for you.
sorry cant really help with your problem but after you have fixed the problem get a more reliable car, cars like Honda, Toyota, Nissan, BMW, Volkswagen and Mercs. Had a honda civic, was the best car I had, reliable and safe.

I heard a saying that Peugeots spend more time in garages then on the road.
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It's not Lacerta Yellow is it?

I feel for you if it is
Misc is a bit like the sea. The tide can turn quickly
Edited by: "WoolyM" 22nd Jan 2012
WoolyM

Misc is a bit like the sea. The tide can turn quickly



very true observation but this also happens in real life.
Original Poster
The photo is off the web, was quickly added to thread to show bonnet design
MonkeyPrince

The photo is off the web, was quickly added to thread to show bonnet … The photo is off the web, was quickly added to thread to show bonnet design



good diversion. don't want greatest stalking your house. (_;)
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mutley1

good diversion. don't want greatest stalking your house. (_;)



Seriously, who wouldn't stalk someone who lived in a house like that.
greatest666

Seriously, who wouldn't stalk someone who lived in a house like that.



you sound like that bloke out of the old tv program, through the keyhole, 'and who lives in a house like this?'

i can't see much of the house to be able to distinguish it in the photo so I am surprised you can. it looks like there is a ghost image of a ship's layout in the photo which I am confused about.
mutley1

you sound like that bloke out of the old tv program, through the keyhole, … you sound like that bloke out of the old tv program, through the keyhole, 'and who lives in a house like this?'i can't see much of the house to be able to distinguish it in the photo so I am surprised you can. it looks like there is a ghost image of a ship's layout in the photo which I am confused about.


House? looks like a mobile home - but theres another thread about them
Has anyone suggested getting someone to tow the car and jump starting it that way? Then at least the OP can take it somewhere to release the bonnet.
Original Poster
I bought one of these, and when I connected it to both cars the LED indicated that the 207 battery is fully charged.

So it seems even if I got the bonnet open I wouldn't be able to jump start it anyway.

Not sure what the Green Flag bloke did to get it going, wife said he just connected it to a mobile battery starter thing, but if the battery was charged already how would that help?

So it looks like I'll have to pay cost of recovery, repair of starting system and repair of bonnet lever.
MonkeyPrince

I bought one of these, and when I connected it to both cars the LED … I bought one of these, and when I connected it to both cars the LED indicated that the 207 battery is fully charged.So it seems even if I got the bonnet open I wouldn't be able to jump start it anyway.Not sure what the Green Flag bloke did to get it going, wife said he just connected it to a mobile battery starter thing, but if the battery was charged already how would that help?So it looks like I'll have to pay cost of recovery, repair of starting system and repair of bonnet lever.



Wouldn't trust charge indicator, However perhaps your starter motor or immobiliser may be faulty, French cars = Headache...!!!
Is there no way you can reach behind the bonnet lever grab the cable with pliers and give it a tug?
id go with the suggestion tow it so far from your house then call them out again
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mutley1

you sound like that bloke out of the old tv program, through the keyhole, … you sound like that bloke out of the old tv program, through the keyhole, 'and who lives in a house like this?'i can't see much of the house to be able to distinguish it in the photo so I am surprised you can. it looks like there is a ghost image of a ship's layout in the photo which I am confused about.



Yes that was deliberate.

The massive sperm shaped caravan in the background.
That's the house.I think.
greatest666

Yes that was deliberate.The massive sperm shaped caravan in the … Yes that was deliberate.The massive sperm shaped caravan in the background.That's the house.I think.



it looks too small. nah, i wouldn't want to stalk someone whose house is unlikely to fit us both in comfortably.
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just push the release catch back with a long screwdriver through the front grill
MonkeyPrince

I bought one of these, and when I connected it to both cars the LED … I bought one of these, and when I connected it to both cars the LED indicated that the 207 battery is fully charged.So it seems even if I got the bonnet open I wouldn't be able to jump start it anyway.Not sure what the Green Flag bloke did to get it going, wife said he just connected it to a mobile battery starter thing, but if the battery was charged already how would that help?So it looks like I'll have to pay cost of recovery, repair of starting system and repair of bonnet lever.



I doubt the device is measuring the battery correctly but it may be possible while the battery is taking a charge, it's simply not producing enough power to start the engine. If that was the case then a jump start would get the engine running and from then on it will mostly be the alternator providing power.

My car's battery has just failed on me, it's been getting tougher to start when cold (taking a bit longer) and then last week would no longer start the engine. When I turned the key in the ignition all the dashboard lights would light up as normal but when I turned to start the engine the starter motor just slowly chugged round, the dashboard lights flickered and various relays clicked away.

Looking around there doesn't seem any easy way to get to the release cable (without removing body work) which is understandable to stop people who shouldn't be opening the bonnet getting access.

John
Hit the bonnet near where the catch is.
thesaint

Hit the bonnet near where the catch is.



but this would cause a dent?
Original Poster
Can't get up underneath the catch, don't fancy hitting the bonnet. Looks like I'll have to pay for recovery etc tomorrow. Thanks for all useful advice and suggestions.
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get under the car with a bright torch and trace the cable from its exit point in the footwell. Then pull it with tightened molegrips.
dimebars

And beef gives you cancerBump start it, take it to the dealer and get … And beef gives you cancerBump start it, take it to the dealer and get them to fix it properly




I wouldn't attempt to bump start your car. This can cause unburned fuel to be injected into the Catalytic Converter, which causes the monolith to overheat and melt. Lots of posts on web telling you not to bump start vehicle with catalytic converter
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