Buying a house

Posted 4th Apr 2023
Going to put an offer on a house that's been part exchanged. An offer by somebody else is in but Barrett are still open to other offers
Listed at 240k. What should I open with?
Thanks
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  1. JimboParrot's avatar
    JimboParrot
    Thanks for the update. Disappointing for them. Make sure the estate agent knows they are still interested even though they will be looking at other houses as the sale may not proceed.
  2. WiganLaticsFan's avatar
    WiganLaticsFan Author
    So they put in an offer last Wednesday but got told that Barrett are proceeding with the other seller as they offered closer to asking price. Wasn't the opportunity to increase their offer. Bit disappointed but hey, it wasn't meant to be

    Thanks all for the advice
  3. WiganLaticsFan's avatar
    WiganLaticsFan Author
    This is a summarised version as my original post was deleted. It's for my nephew and partner, not me. They've looked at the house and like it enough to want to put an offer in. I'm telling them that the housing market is quiet so there should be room for a discount. Backed up by the fact that Barrett's are still open to offers. They're afraid that if they offered too low, that the estate agents will freeze them out but I think they would invite them to up their offer.
    What are peoples experience of this
    Thanks
    JimboParrot's avatar
    JimboParrot
    You're right about them just being asked to increase their offer, but as it is owned by a company now then the situation could be different to the norm. That said, Barretts might have a deadline for offers hence why they are still able to offer. They probably will want a quick turnaround so probably want first time/nothing to sell buyers with a mortgage already 'in place'.

    If they really want it they should offer the asking price (areas differ so much so impossible really to say otherwise). They can look at Rightmove and the Government website to see what similar properties have sold for, although this can take over three months to update. Get them to talk to the estate agents as they will want the sale to go through. Once secured and following a survey there may be work needed which will enable them to negotiate the price.
  4. pekoz1's avatar
    pekoz1
    I dont think theyll freeze you out if you offer lower...as long as its a realistic offer. Theyll probably be happy to have the competition with the other party....so they can play you off against each other.

    You dont say your nephews position ....i.e. first time buyers/ house to sell/etc if theres nothing to sell that will work in his favour.

    Price is just one part of the equation. I'd be happy to give the builder my mortgage in principle and proof of deposit (bank statements ) up front to prove Im proceedable and serious.

    Just be careful with a new build as part of the chain....there are often delays with the new build which ripple down the chain.

    As @JimboParrot says you can use Rightmove or the Govt's Land Registry's Price Paid Data to get an idea of what prices have been achieved historically ...

    landregistry.data.gov.uk/app…pd/

    But have a chat with the local estate agents as well .....to see what prices are being currently achieved locally. They wont give you exact prices but you should be able to get a feel for the local market.
  5. bozo007's avatar
    bozo007
    A lot depends on the area. Prices haven't stalled / fallen everywhere. In London, they have come down from astronomical to silly levels, but still significantly above 2019.
  6. MicroManaged's avatar
    MicroManaged
    So this isn't a new build? Its a part ex that someone "traded in" for a new build?

    Part ex's are usually low ball offers so I find it odd that someone would do this? Did they not try and sell the property? If so, why didn't the property sell and they were desperate enough to part ex the house?

    There is usually something glaringly obviously wrong with the house or the area if it's been part ex'd.........Unless the sellers were just utterly clueless to the actual value of their property and thought that part ex was the done thing?
    slimy31's avatar
    slimy31
    Other posts on here suggest that new build sales are pressured into a very tight timescale, they may have had to do a 'part ex' to complete according to the developers demands. It sounds utterly horrible to me, yet another reason to never buy a new build.
  7. Attic45's avatar
    Attic45
    You can offer £1 and the estate agent legally has to take that offer to the seller.

    Go in at 210k and see what happens.
    JimboParrot's avatar
    JimboParrot
    Then wait for it to be rejected straightaway.
  8. ashmac's avatar
    ashmac
    If you want the house pay the asking price , I’ve bought enough to know messing around trying to get £2k off ect absolutely is pointless if your a serous buyer , do you know saving about £5k saves you about £1 a month or less over the term. Go in at £241k if you want the house of your not bothered and want to lose out out £238k (edited)
    taxboy's avatar
    taxboy
    I agree and yet also disagree within your post; only the OP knows if the house has a value of £240k to them. If yes then fully agree to secure the purchase.
    However I'm not certain how you calculated an additional cost of £1 per month to repay £5000 over 25 years ? Even with no interest I make it approx £17 pcm.
    I also think the rising cost of housing has distorted people's view of money. £5k is not an insignificant sum for a lot of people and they bandy these and larger amounts without really considering the value imo. If you were to lay out £5k in bank notes on your table would it still seem so small ? Perhaps it would, perhaps it doesn't. Just my perception others may have a different view
  9. Gruff__'s avatar
    Gruff__
    I have a very low opinion of Barratt, the way they operate and the way they treat customers.

    If you end up buying this part-ex wait until the very last moment, say 24 hours before exchange, then tell 'em your finances have changed and reduce your offer by £6k.

    I'd never do this to an individual seller but the major house builders have been gouging money from tax payers for years now. (edited)
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